10 things not to say to your infertile friend:

2009 July 5

1. “Take a vacation.”

If I was going to get pregnant from taking a vacation, I think I’d have quite a large family by now. I live in France, we have FIVE WEEKS of vacation a year. And let me tell you, we have had some quite pleasurable attempts at baby-making on many, many of said vacations.

2. “Relax, just stop thinking about it.”

Does a doctor tell a patient with a hernia or heart problems or cancer to stop thinking about it? I think not. Infertility is no different from any other medical conditions, there is usually a medical explanation.

3. “Why don’t you just adopt?”

‘Just’ adopting doesn’t exist. Adoption is a long and difficult process. There are many reasons why infertile couples don’t ‘just’ adopt. In our own experience, we did actually begin adoption proceedings, but after hearing the truth about how difficult it is here in France, decided that at this time adopting isn’t for us.

‘Just’ adopting in France takes from five to seven years, and less than five percent of the couples that begin the adoption process actually have a child in the end. Oh, and in case you think we ere just being too picky, let me clarify that in our initial paperwork we did not ask for a newborn and we are completely open to foreign adoption. We agreed to accept several children from the same family and that the oldest could be up to nine years old.

Adoption is also very expensive, and with an under five percent success rate, we decided that our chances of having a child before I am forty were better with IVF.

When people ask me why I don’t ‘just’ adopt, I’m often tempted these days to ask them why they don’t.

4. “I knew a couple who had given up trying to have a baby and just after filing for adoption, the woman got pregnant!”

It seems like every ignorant non-infertile knows this couple, who magically got pregnant after filling out adoption paperwork. I would like to know, is there a special formula? Should I pay the filing fee as well and look through the catalogs of children waiting for homes? Will that help me trick my body more effectively? Maybe I can spin around in circles while standing on my head and do a rain dance as well.

5. “You’re still young honey, you have time.”

Infertility knows no age.

At twenty nine, I went off the pill, my gynecologist told me after a year of trying to conceive that we had time. After the second year I was pregnant, then had a miscarriage, which he took as proof that ‘everything as working’ and told me we had time. At thirty one, two years after the miscarriage and four years after going off the pill he finally let me be tested.

I’ll never forget the day he sat me down in his office and explained to me that I had high FSH and what that meant. ‘Diminished ovarian reserve’ – he told us that I was very lucky to have been pregnant once and that we had no time to lose. This was the first time someone compared my ovaries to a woman over forty. I felt shocked, betrayed. Everyone had said we were ’so young’. We were young, my ovaries were not.

During this last IVF cycle, we learned that my right ovary is going into menopause. I’m thirty three.

6. “Just don’t be another Octomom!”

I have received this comment more times than I care to admit since ‘coming out’ about the fact that we are going the IVF route.

It makes me cringe every time.

The classic Octomom comment is not only ignorant and inappropriate, it shuts down all communication between myself and the person who makes it. I don’t see how I could open up all the difficulty and depth that comes with doing IVF to someone who is willing to make such an inane comparison before understanding what we are going through. Comparing a regular person who seeks IVF to Nadya Suleman is like comparing someone who is having marital problems to the girl sleeping with her step-father that you saw on the Jerry Springer Show.

7. “Why don’t you just do IVF?”

Many infertiles do not go the IVF route, for various reasons. Again ‘just’ doing IVF is like ‘just’ adopting. It doesn’t exist. IVF is a long, arduous procedure. It taxes a woman’s body as well as her emotions in a way only someone undergoing it can understand. It puts strain on your marriage, it is very expensive, often not covered by health insurance, and there is no guarantee on the outcome.

Many people have ethical concerns about the procedure, when it comes to embryo creation and freezing, and what to do with the little guys when you don’t need them any more. It is something every couple undergoing the procedure has to think about, and some do not feel comfortable with the grayness of such questions.

Doing IVF or not doing IVF is such adifficult and personal choice, and is not something taken lightly.

8. “IVF is immoral.”

If a couple has decided to pursue in-vitro fertilization, they have likely worked through the gray area of questions and do not need blanket statements condemning their choice. Often these kind of statements arise from ignorance about the actual procedure, not to mention statements from the pope/pulpit about embryo wastage and how assisted procreation technology “violates human dignity” and that IVF is wrong because it “separates human procreation from the conjugal union.”‘

There are so many things I could say about this, and other opinions that have been formed on IVF from a religious standpoint, but it really deserves it’s own post. Half of my family is Catholic, and most of the others are Evangelical. Needless to say, we have had some very hurtful comments from people who really were just trying to help. I’ve had every Bible verse you can imagine quoted at me, in order to steer us from our deviation off the ‘narrow path’.

I have often asked for prayer, and while most people respond that they are, and they will, and that they are hoping and believing with us, there always is that one person that rather than supporting, uses the opportunity to preach at us.

The first person I told about losing our tiniest of pregnancies after our first cycle of IVF told me that he ‘hadn’t felt led’ to pray for us, and losing the pregnancy was, for him, confirmation that what we were doing was not immoral.

Another loved one, when hearing that w are planning to try again in the fall, told me I should pray about it, stating that, “If the Lord doesn’t build the house we labor in vain.” This person, whom I dearly love, had recently lost her husband to cancer. I wonder how she would have felt is someone quoted that same verse to her concerning she and her husband’s decision to pursue chemotherapy? Out of love, I did not ask her and calmly changed the subject.

If a loved one has decided to pursue IVF, why not try to understand the procedure rather than blindly condemning it?

9.”My husband just looks at me and I get pregnant!”

Oh, thank you for the side of salt to go with my wounds, how thoughtful! Why don’t you tell me how you were on the pill or breastfeeding and they just kept coming? Would you like me to plan your baby shower (on the anniversary of my miscarriage) while we’re on the subject?

10.“God has a plan. Trust Him.”

Along the lines of the whole ‘God’ argument, this would be a whole other post as well, with a side of philosophy, theology and apologetics.

God has a plan. OK, so I know this kid, a teenager, who grew up in Rwanda and saw his parents shot before his eyes just before being kidnapped by a rebel army that turned him into a killer.

“God has a plan.”

What? Did God’s plan involve this child becoming an orphaned murderer against his own will? Does ‘God’s plan’ involve babies dying and people starting and my bank account being in the red and my failed right ovary and high FSH?

Being a believer doesn’t mean you have to be so stupid. God may have a plan but their are environmental and medical factors causing infertility, and it is more and more common. Would you tell someone dying of AIDS that “God has a plan”? Do you mean to say that God gave them AIDS?

I have a new slogan: “God has a plan; shit happens.”

Of course, this list is not exhaustive. Here’s a game – what are some things people have said to YOU other infertiles that should be added?

For the non-infertiles reading this, are their things about infertility and those going through it that you would like help better understanding? If so, then what?

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  1. 2009 July 5
    Monique permalink

    I cringe thinking I used #1 on some friends of mine once. After Sam died and I got a whole other set of stupid comments (some in common, that God has a plan one is popular!) I emailed her and apologized for my ignorance. I never heard back. I realize I was an ass but I was an ignorant ass and now I know better.

    Now that we’re trying and not getting pregnant, I’ve noticed a few of these comments trickling into people’s comments about our life so we get a double-whammy… “you’ll have another” (like Sam is replaceable) is intermixed with “just relax and stop thinking about it and you’ll get pregnant!”. Yay, just what I needed, more assvice from the untouched.

  2. 2009 July 5

    Uh Oh! It is hard enough to be facing the actual rosebuds of IF, and now we have to listen to the Thorn-dikes too?

    1. “Take a vacation.”

    Sponsor Me.

    2. “Relax, just stop thinking about it.”

    Oh, is there a switch…Push to turn it off or so?

    3. “Why don’t you just adopt?”

    Oh, I was waiting for you to do it first.

    4. “I knew a couple who had given up trying to have a baby and just after filing for adoption, the woman got pregnant!”

    Really? Was that you?

    5. “You’re still young honey, you have time.”

    I will always be YOUNG…at heart. Alas, my body is not listening. Stupid Stupid.

    6. “Just don’t be another Octomom!”

    Why not take a knife, and run salt on the edges…that will hurt me more…whee whee!

    7. “Why don’t you just do IVF?”

    Noted. Are you running a contraception helpline as well?

    8. “IVF is immoral.”

    I was always a devil.

    9.”My husband just looks at me and I get pregnant!”

    No wonder the world is bursting at its seams…everybody is looking at everybody!

    10.“God has a plan. Trust Him.”

    Am sure about it. God killed MJ, right before his ‘This is it’ tour.

  3. 2009 July 5

    Yes Yes a thousand times YES. All of them. Also….”Well, if it doesn’t work out you can always have mine, I’d love to get rid of her!” *laughter follows*. She lauged alone.

    On the upside, me and my near-spermless love ARE going on vacation in two weeks….so I’m pretty sure I won’t need to worry about that FET.

  4. 2009 July 5

    That’s an awesome collection! About God has a plan… I seem to start getting stronger in my belief that everything is random and coincidental… I sometimes wonder if this is a part of survival of the fittest… however, there are millions of “not so smart” couples who pop kids… are they more fit to survive?

  5. 2009 July 5

    Oh my GOD I can’t believe what asshats people can be. The “just relax” thing always got to me, too. The LAST thing you can do when you’re pumped full of hormones or monitoring your ovulation cycle like a hawk is relax. And people TELLING you to relax accomplishes just the opposite.

  6. 2009 July 5

    Some people are such morons!

    I’ve learned so much about infertility through you and your story. I’m amazed at how many people I know who have struggled through this horrible nightmare.

  7. 2009 July 5

    I was told once after I had my miscarriage “oh you were barely pregnant, it’s not SO bad”. Oh! Yes it could be worse, but you’re wrong, it is SO bad *sigh*
    *HUGS*

  8. 2009 July 5

    Oh so true! How is it that people are so insensitive? I also love it when pregnant people whine and complain about how fat they’re getting or their swollen feet. I’d gladly trade any of these gals’ gifts with my barren belly.

    My husband is really good at the pithy smart-alec one-liners when asked why he doesn’t have kids; I need to get better at that.

  9. 2009 July 5
    missedconceptions permalink

    I also get, “well, you were just not meant to have this baby,” “you will get the baby you are supposed to have,” and “miscarriage is just natures’ way of taking care of the sick babies.”

    At first, I got really angry. Now, I just think they honestly don’t know what to say.

  10. 2009 July 6

    Ugh. I hope you told that guy who said he didn’t feel moved to pray for you to fuck off. But reading you has led me to believe you were probably polite. I know-have him email me, and I’LL tell him to fuck off. And because I’m big-hearted, I’ll pray for him that his journey to land-of-the-fuck-offs is a peaceful one.

  11. 2009 July 6

    hey sassy – after my very early miscarriage, i got “at least you know you can get pregnant” — that might calm some women, but for me, i was like, uh.. no, just getting pregnant gets me no where.. i’d like to actually have a lasting pregnancy and a baby, thanks..

    i’m so sorry.. here in this community, just relax, we’ll never say those crazy things to you! ;)

  12. 2009 July 6

    The story about someone who got pregnant just when they stopped trying pisses me off no end, not least because I’m convinced it isn’t about any actual friend of theirs – it’s a repeatedly passed on urban myth that people repeat as a thinly veiled way to tell you that the reason you are not pregnant is because you are trying to hard. If I weren’t such a wonderful Buddhist yogi pacifist I’d want to kick their teeth in…

    Egg factory – I also struggle to force a smile when pregnant friends complain about their lot. I know that saying that just because you are lucky enough to get pregnant means you should never complain about the swollen ankles and sleepless nights is about as fair as saying that just because you don’t have cancer means you should never complain about having the flu – but really – do they have to complain about being pregnant in front of friends who they know damn well would loooooooooove to be pregnant? Seriously?

  13. 2009 July 6

    I can’t honestly imagine getting comments like these from the people you love, dear family and friends. It must be so hard. Other people can be categorised as ignorant idiots, and in some way dismissed even though the comments were hurtful and (on the verge of) mean. You can decide not to have anything more to do with “the other people” while family you’ll have to put up with. How do you deal with those from your family/friends?

    I am curious about the IVF treatment, are there difference in clinics/doctors/service here in France? Will the doctor refer you to the nearest clinic or do you have a free choice of where to undergo the IVF treatment?

  14. 2009 July 6
    murphyalm permalink

    Just this weekend I received the “why don’t you use a surrogate?” WHY DON’T YOU F**K OFF??? Of course, I didn’t say that out loud, ’cause it was our nation’s birthday and all. :)

    This came from a person who says she has PCOS but has two beautiful boys, both accidents. AND, she had those accidents when she was 34 and 36. Ugh.

    Gah! I’m so trying not to be this bitter person. It’s major hard right now.

  15. 2009 July 7

    LOL I’ve heard all these before except for number 6. LMHO THX for the good laugh!!! :D

  16. 2009 July 7

    Great post. I cringe when I hear similar comments, and struggle with getting frustrated and hurt — but I also recall making equally unhelpful/insensitive comments to others who are struggling. I’m trying to have more patience and grace, but it is hard. Thank goodness for blogging to vent about hurtful remarks.

  17. 2009 July 7

    Ha! Just this weekend I was told (by a very large pregnant woman who was knocked up with her “we weren’t planning on it” second child) that I should go to a psychic. Because that’s what she did and apparently the psychic was accurate. When I told her that I wasn’t into that sort of thing she asked if I read “The Secrete.” Because the whole premise is that if you want something enough and focus on it you will get it.

    If that were true I would have a school bus load of kids because I’ve been focused on and willing a BFP for the last three years.

  18. 2009 July 7

    “The first person I told about losing our tiniest of pregnancies after our first cycle of IVF told me that he ‘hadn’t felt led’ to pray for us, and losing the pregnancy was, for him, confirmation that what we were doing was not immoral.”

    That is the craziest thing that I’ve ever heard in my life. not to mention confusing. That guy should write sci fi. And, dear lord, please never let me say anything like any of these things. And, feel free to slap the shit out of me for saying anything hurtful or inappropriate ever.

  19. 2009 July 24

    Thank you for this list. I think I’ll give the link to, oh, about 100 people I know. If I hear “just relax” one more time… two years in and you think RELAXING is going to help? No.

    Another non-favorite at this point is “It will happen.” Really? Are you sure? Because I’m not. I’m not sure at all.

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